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 Post subject: Linz: troleibuze
PostPosted: Thu 18 Oct 2007 17:21 
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Sint 5 trasee de troleibuz. Traseul 43 mi se pare cel mai important traseu. Traseul 45a este extensia traseului 45 intre Gara (Hauptbahnhof) si Froschberg. Traseele 45 si 46 le pot compara cu traseele 73 si 74 din Bucuresti.

Iata traseele:

41 Hessenplatz - Baintwiese

43 Hessenplatz - St. Martin Stadtfriedhof

45 Stieglbauernstrasse - Hauptbahnhof

45a Stieglbauernstrasse - Hauptbahnhof - Froschberg

46 Hafen - Hauptbahnhof - Froschberg


In imagine, statia Hauptbahnhof.


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Traseele in aprilie 2002:

41 Hessenplatz - Baintwiese -- neschimbat

43 Hessenplatz - St. Martin Stadtfriedhof -- neschimbat

45 Stieglbauernstrasse - Hauptbahnhof - Froschberg

21 Hafen - Hauptbahnhof


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La ora actuala parcul de troleibuze este innoit, fiind compus din 19 unitati Volvo B7LA, aduse in noiembrie 2001. In cele ce urmeaza, o sa va prezint troleibuzele pe care am reusit sa le fotografiez intr-o jumatate buna de zi, cit am stat aici.

Se doreste demararea lucrarilor de prelungire a Local-bahn-ului (S-bahn) existent, lucrari ce se vor desfasura pe parcursul a 5 ani. In aceasta perioada, traseele 41 si 43 vor fi deservite de catre autobuze, raminind un "surplus" de 10 troleibuze.

La ora actuala se formuleaza diferite ipoteze, din care doua sint esentiale: din 2011 se renunta complet la troleibuze, folosindu-se autobuze cu GPL, sau se extinde reteaua de troleibuz.


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204 (part. I).


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204 (part. II).


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Zusammen.


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Nici aceste troleibuze nu au tragatoare, iar capetele de captare sint si ele "fixe". Au sistem de decuplare pneumatica a captatoarelor.


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Haideti sa vedem si detalii ale retelei electrice.
Reteaua traseului 43 mi s-a parut destul de neingrijita (veche) mai ales in zona capatului de linie Froschberg.

Macaze electrice


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Dinspre Froschberg, spre Hauptbahnhof. In dreapta, troleibuzele intra in subteran, in terminalul de la gara.


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Incrucisari Tb-Tb


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Incrucisare Tb-Tw


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Macaze mecanice


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Vom vedea si alte piese ale retelei de contact troleibuze, din diferite locatii.

Sa vedem terminalul de la Hauptbahnhof:


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Spre Garnisonstrasse


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Alte locatii.


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PostPosted: Sun 06 Jan 2008 00:58 
Vad ca cei care au proiectat reteaua au stiut sa profite din plin de arhitectura strazilor pe care e montata reteaua. In loc sa foloseasca zeci de stalpi, cum e popular pe la noi, acolo vad ca o buna parte din fire sunt sustinute direct in peretii cladirilor, realizandu-se o economie importanta de material si mai ales, o solutie placuta dpdv estetic.
La noi nu prea am vazut asa ceva la o retea de troleu, iar la tramvai am vazut foarte putine cazuri: pe calea Mosilor Veche, unele cabluri de sustinere erau ancorate direct in epretii caselor, dar acum au pus stalpi :evil: (afaceri stiu...). Singurul exemplu care mai exista ar fi reateaua de pe bdul Sincai, unde se profita din plin de cladirea adiacenta statiilor din zona. Sper sa si ramana asa...


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bogdan_buc wrote:
Vad ca cei care au proiectat reteaua au stiut sa profite din plin de arhitectura strazilor pe care e montata reteaua. In loc sa foloseasca zeci de stalpi, cum e popular pe la noi, acolo vad ca o buna parte din fire sunt sustinute direct in peretii cladirilor, realizandu-se o economie importanta de material si mai ales, o solutie placuta dpdv estetic.
La noi nu prea am vazut asa ceva la o retea de troleu, iar la tramvai am vazut foarte putine cazuri: pe calea Mosilor Veche, unele cabluri de sustinere erau ancorate direct in epretii caselor, dar acum au pus stalpi :evil: (afaceri stiu...). Singurul exemplu care mai exista ar fi reateaua de pe bdul Sincai, unde se profita din plin de cladirea adiacenta statiilor din zona. Sper sa si ramana asa...

Si in Romania au existat astfel de sisteme de prindere pana in 1977. In Brasov exista acest sistem pe actualele strazi: Bd. 15 Noiembrie, Str. Muresenilor, Piata Sfatului, Str. Baritiu, Str. Poarta Schei, Str. Grigoras Dinicu, Str. Balcescu (zona centrala, unde exista case cu etaj, caci cele cu parter nu au inaltimea necesara). Modul de ancorare al retelei era insa destul de primitiv, nu era prevazuta piesa de amortizare a socurilor, astfel incat se induceau trepidatii in structura cladirii. Dupa cutremurul din 1977 s-a interzis utilizarea sistemului pentru a proteja pe de o parte constructiile, pe de alta parte reteaua, in cazul prabusirii unei constructii. In perioada imediat urmatoare au fost introdusi stalpi (rezultand un aspect foarte inestetic). Daca macar nu s-ar fi folosit console metalice, ci traversee (asa cum era fixata reteaua pe unele zone din Bd. 15 Noiembrie si I. Maniu), probabil stalpii nu ar fi trebuit sa fie atat de grosi. In plus, consolele deranjeaza chiar mai mult imaginea decat stalpii. Dar strazile fiind inguste, nu era economic sa aiba stalpi pe ambele parti.
Astazi, daca s-ar relua sistemul sub o forma imbunatatita, ar fi mari probleme cu legislatia, intrucat ar trebui acordul proprietarilor casei (acum privati in majoritate).

Reiau o intrebare mai veche: troleibuzele articulate din Linz sunt mai lungi de 18 m?


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Brassovia wrote:
Reiau o intrebare mai veche: troleibuzele articulate din Linz sunt mai lungi de 18 m?


Nu.

Fisa tehnica a acestor troleibuze, preluata de pe http://www.vossloh-kiepe.de se afla in atasament.


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Sa vedem si interiorul troleibuzelor Volvo. Spatios, cu bun-gust.


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