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Din pacate inca nici eu nu ma pot lauda cu niste poze remarcabile. Azi am iesit sa fotografiez troleibuzele aduse din Biel dar nu am observat niciunul. Asa ca postez pozele ce le-am surprins in ziua in care au fost introduse.
Sper ca sunt bune, avand in vedere ca le-am facut din casa.

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Am calatorit azi cu #68.
Este o placere. Senzatia de confort este cea dominanta. Curat totul inauntru. Tapiteria frumoasa pe scaune. Pe acoperis sunt 4 trape usor de actionat. Iluminarea vine din peretii laterali de deasupra geamurilor si este realizata cu tuburi fluorescente.
Bine organizate in interior. Au senzori la usa 2 si 4, imediat sub cutia de actionare. Daca un calator nu sta la 20 cm de ultima treapta usa nu se inchide si implicit troleibuzul nu pleaca. Deschiderea usilor se face prin apasarea butoanelor din apropierea usilor cum deja ne-am obisnuit de la toate vehiculele SH.
Compresorul lucreaza intermitent. Diferentialul scoate un sunet frumos in timpul mersului.
Din pacate afisajul electronic a fost scos complet din locas la indicatorul de traseu de pe laterala, fiind inlocuit, cum am mai spus cu folie plastifiata.


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Fata si spatele


Vad ca in Brasov se monteaza scarite in spatele troleibuzelor. E la moda la troleibuzele aduse SH. Au circulat peste 20 de ani si 1.000.000 de KM fara acum la batrinete le trebuie scarita. Pentru ce se foloseste acea scara?


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tubus wrote:
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Fata si spatele


Vad ca in Brasov se monteaza scarite in spatele Troleibuzelor. E la moda la Troleibuzele aduse SH. Au circulat peste 20 de ani si 1.000.000 de KM fara acum la batrinete le trebuie scarita. Pentru ce se folosetse acea scara?

Acele scari de tip fix sunt impotriva normativelor europene si chiar romanesti! In productia romaneasca de troleibuze s-a renuntat la ele din anul 1976. Exista un mare dublu pericol, care a facut multe victime pe vremea cand circulau TV-urile. O data, e posibil ca anumiti excentrici sa calatoreasca agatati de acea scara, pe exteriorul vehiculului. In al doilea rand, orice copil poate urca pe acoperis pentru a se electrocuta.

Dar poate tocmai asta se doreste: un accident grav, care sa justifice "politica" locala fata de troleibuze. Cel care a dat dispozitia montarii acelor scari, ar trebui insa sa plateasca, dar ce conteaza...


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Hello

this are the new Trolley in Biel the come for the good old volvos ! Certenly the are full whit electronic ! So still wee have Problems whit this !
Delivert are 51 +52 +53 + 54 +55 and sometimes on the Road. Delivert but not Ready are 56 + 57 missing 58 + 59 +60 So mid June alle 10 new TB are on teh Road.
Greetings from Biel, Helvetia !
Jarre :D 8)


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jarre wrote:
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this are the new Trolley in Biel the come for the good old volvos !

So, these are the trolleys that replace the Volvo's sent to our city... Thank you jarre for the beautiful images. As you can see, the first 4 Volvo are allready in service in Brasov (old Transsylvanian town "Kronstadt"), unfortunately without their electronical display. Did you know when will be send to us the next 6 old trolleys?


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hello Brassovia

I dont now Exactly when the Leave Biel, i hear on the Radio that mid june all 10 Neu TB are on the Road, but like i say 3 TB not Delivert until today. So teh old one are still on the Road ! I work as Bus (diesel + Trolley) Driver in Biel ! So i keep you up to date whit TB news From Biel. I now its 5 TB to gone the nummbers in Total are 62 + 63 + 64 + 65 +66 +67 +68 +69 + 80 Fotos of all tolley you see here TB and Autobus http://www.ferrovie.ch/img/categories.p ... hn52659va0

Greetings From Biel
Jarre 8)


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tubus wrote:
Vad ca in Brasov se monteaza scarite in spatele Troleibuzelor. E la moda la Troleibuzele aduse SH. Au circulat peste 20 de ani si 1.000.000 de KM fara acum la batrinete le trebuie scarita. Pentru ce se folosetse acea scara?

Aceste scari s-au montat deoarece in urma cu cativa ani s-a produs un accident de munca destul de bizar. Acest lucru il cunosc de la cineva din conducerea RAT pe care l-am intrebat si eu despre acest lucru.
Se stie ca DAC aveau initial acele scari detasabile care erau transportate in salon. Ulterior Rocar au avut un fel de suporti fixati de caroserie pe care soferii se urcau atunci cand sareau captatorii si ii descurcau din retea sau din macaze.
Dupa venirea primelor FBW si apoi a Vetter si G&S acest lucru nu se mai putea face, acestea neavand nici un fel de posibilitate de a se ajunge pe acoperis. Si atunci a fost legata o franghie de suportii de ghidare a funiilor de la captatori. Soferii se prindeau de aceasta funii si punand picioarele pe tragatoare cu oarecare efort ajungeau pe acoperis. Pana intr-o zi ...
Un sofer s-a dezechilibrat si a cazut chiar in momentul in care a pus piciorul pe acoperis si a ajuns in spital cu fracturi multiple.
De atunci s-a dat dispozitie ca sa se monteze acele scari.


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Kappa wrote:
Aceste scari s-au montat deoarece in urma cu cativa ani s-a produs un accident de munca destul de bizar.

In lumea civilizata, soferul nu are ce sa caute pe acoperis, altfel ar fi pus chiar elvetienii acele scari. Acolo insa, vehiculul se repara si intretine doar in atelierele depoului, cu ajutorul instalatiilor si dispozitivelor adecvate, de catre personal specializat, cu respectarea legislatiei de protectia muncii. Prezenta scarii nu evita astfel de accidente, ba chiar faciliteaza accesul soferilor si altor persoane pe acoperis, ca sa aiba de unde cadea. E o rezolvare de-a-ndoaselea, 100% romaneasca.

In cazul unui eveniment pe traseu, exista echipaje de interventie si remorcare. Altfel, ce rol mai au acestea?


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Lasand deoparte acea scarita, am observat ca #62 nu prea este introdus in circulatie? Oare cei de la RAT doresc sa mai menajeze acest troleibuz din cauza faptului ca are peste un milion de kilometri la activ?
In rest celalalte troleibuze circula zilnic.

In imagine #65 pe linia 8 (singura linie pe care circula deocamdata).


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Desi s-au adus inca 4 troleibuze din Biel, inca pe liniile destinate troleibuzelor circula autobuze. Astfel toata saptamana asta au circulat Man-uri pe 5 barat, iar pe 7 si 30 troleibuzele circula cu schimbul: 2 zile pe o linie 2 pe alta. Singura linie pe care am observat troleibuze este 1 barat, pe aceasta circuland mai mult G&S. Din nou Vettere-le (si cele articulate si cele nearticulate) nu prea ies la traseu...


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Desi s-au adus inca 4 troleibuze din Biel, inca pe liniile destinate troleibuzelor circula autobuze. Astfel toata saptamana asta au circulat Man-uri pe 5 barat, iar pe 7 si 30 troleibuzele circula cu schimbul: 2 zile pe o linie 2 pe alta. Singura linie pe care nu am observat troleibuze este 1 barat, pe aceasta circuland mai mult G&S. Din nou Vettere-le (si cele articulate si cele nearticulate) nu prea ies la traseu...

Vetter 203, 205, 209 au fost ieri / azi pe traseu. Introducerea de autobuze n-are nici o legatura cu parcul disponibil de troleibuze; s-a facut si pe vremea cand existau inca din belsug ROCAR.


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hello Brassovia

The Volvos have an electronic display but the control the have taken of here becouse its only germen and French so it not good for romanian exept maybee in French Gare in Romania i see Gara ! Englisch Railway station Deutsch Bahnhof
I dont now exactly when the next 4 Trolley leave ouer City i hear 23 June but not sure. As 2 Of the New trolley are not Delivert the have Delay!
Manufacrturer of the new Trolley is Hess http://www.hess-ag.ch/ one new Trolley cost about 745 000 euro or 1 500 000 us$ !!!!!
Here you see pic from the parad at 1 june all types of trolley are show ! the 80 is a Prototype of Swisstrolley 1 it exist only this Bus ! It will also come to Brasov ! The Secent Type is swisstrolley 2 the are 10 Years old. So maybee you see them in 10 years ? But you need a computer to Repair this Buses !
The Oltimer ist from 1940 and still used for extra Drive !
Greetings from Switzerland


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hello Brassovia

The Volvos have a ectronic display but the control the have taken of here becouse its only germen and French so it not good for romanian exept maybee in French Gare in Romania i see Gara ! Englisch Railway station Deutsch Bahnhof
I dont now exactly when the next 4 Trolley leave ouer City i hear 23 June but not sure. As 2 Of the New trolley are not Delivert the have Delay!


Gruess dich, Jarre. Danke schoen fur die Nachrichten und Bilder.
Habe ich nicht gut verstehen, oder sind jetzt nur noch 4 alte Obusse, und nicht mehr alle 6, zur Verfuegung gestellt fuer unsere Stadt?


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hallo Brassovia

so wie ich gehoert habe gehen, ich bin nur Fahrer, gehen diesen Monat 4 Trollely nach RO 3 Bleiben noch bis Oktober ( 70 + 71 + 72)
mehr weiss ich noch nicht !
Gruesse
Jarre :lol:


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English, por favor 8-|. Could someone please translate this? There are some other people on this forum that would like to read the above posts. Have mercy on us...

TRANSLATION INTO ROMANIAN - WHAT JARRE SAID:
Dupa cum stie, din auzite, Jarre, care este doar sofer, zilele acestea vor mai pleca spre Brasov doar inca 4 troleibuze Volvo. Mai exista inca 3 vechi (70, 71, 72), dar acestea raman pana in octombrie [cel putin] in Biel, pentru ca nu se pot aduce inca troleibuzele noi care trebuiau sa le inlocuiasca. Mai mult nu stie nici el.


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Sa vedem cum arata la aceeasi data si zona Onix - Castanilor - Kogalniceanu.

Kogalniceanu -1 barat


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Bul. Kogalniceanu -5 barat si fostul 3 barat. Racord cu zona Hidromecanica.


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Str. Castanilor -1 barat (reteaua in partea dreapta a imaginii).


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Str. Castanilor -1 barat dinspre Triaj, 5 barat dinspre Hidromecanica


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Onix -1 barat, 5 barat, 7, 30. A ramas si maczaul mecanic pt. fostul troleibuz 1.


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Sa le mai vedem la strada.

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205 pe bul. Grivitei. Intra pe str. Castanilor.


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Zona Onix, populata. Acum 2 ani.


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Zona Kogalniceanu - Toamnei.

203 -traseul 1.


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Ca sa fii prezent, trebuie sa ai un trecut.
Pentru iubitorii de istorie (sper sa mai existe), ne intoarcem in timp, tot intr-o zi de 13. Insa in luna august 2005.

Vedeti aranjarea retelei in zona bul. 13dec. -bul. Grivitei.


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Bul. Grivitei - str. 13dec.


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