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 Post subject: Ploiesti: tramvaie
PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2007 00:14 
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Sa vedem si cum se prezinta parcul de tramvaie


Vagoane motor
Nr. - Nr. inmatriculare - An fab. - Tipul - Observatii

13 - * 1988 - Timis 2 - Retras
14 - * 1989 - Timis 2 - Retras
051 - Ploiesti 8-006 1997 - V3A-93M Faur
070 - Ploiesti 8-008 1977 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1996 din Potsdam, unde avea numarul #8; dotat cu chopper
071 - Ploiesti 8-009 1979 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1996 din Potsdam, unde avea numarul #10; dotat cu chopper; RK in 2006
072 - Ploiesti 8-010 1980 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1996 din Potsdam, unde avea numarul #20; dotat cu chopper.
073 - Ploiesti 8-011 1980 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1996 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #22; dotat cu chopper
074 - Ploiesti 8-012 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1996 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #26; dotat cu chopper
075 - Ploiesti 8-013 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1996 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #27; dotat cu chopper.
076 - Ploiesti 8-014 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1996 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #28; dotat cu chopper
077 - Ploiesti 8-015 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1996 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #29; dotat cu chopper
078 - Ploiesti 8-016 1982 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1996 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #39; dotat cu chopper
079 - Ploiesti 8-017 1983 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1996 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #44; dotat cu chopper
084 - *** 1967 - Gotha T2-64 - adus in 1998 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #306; utilitar; in conservare
085 - Ploiesti 8-021 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1998 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #12
086 - Ploiesti 8-022 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1998 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #14; dotat cu chopper: RK in 2006
087 - Ploiesti 8-023 1980 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1998 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #18: dotat cu chopper
088 - Ploiesti 8-024 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1998 din Potsdam, unde avea numarul #24; dotat cu chopper
089 - Ploiesti 8-025 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1998 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #30
090 - Ploiesti 8-026 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1998 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #31
091 - Ploiesti 8-027 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1998 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #36
092 - Ploiesti 8-028 1982 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1998 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #43
093 - Ploiesti 8-029 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1999 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #16
094 - Ploiesti 8-030 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1999 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #32
095 - Ploiesti 8-031 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1999 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #34
096 - Ploiesti 8-032 1981 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1999 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #38
097 - Ploiesti 8-033 1982 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1999 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #40
098 - Ploiesti 8-034 1982 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 1999 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #42
099 - Ploiesti 8-035 1977 - Tatra KT4D - adus in 2002 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #6
100 - Ploiesti 8-036 1985 - Tatra KT4DM - adus in 2002 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #110
101 - Ploiesti 8-037 1985 - Tatra KT4DM - adus in 2002 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #101
102 - Ploiesti 8-038 1985 - Tatra KT4DM - adus in 2002 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #102
103 - Ploiesti 8-039 1985 - Tatra KT4DM - adus in 2002 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #109
104 - Ploiesti 8-040 1985 -Tatra KT4DM - adus in 2002 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #104
105 - Ploiesti 8-041 1985 - Tatra KT4DM - adus in 2002 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #111
106 - Ploiesti 8-042 1985 - Tatra KT4DM - adus in 2002 din Potsdam, unde avea nr. #202
5000 - *** 1928 - Lohner M - adus in 1998 din Mariazell, ex-Viena #4085; retras
5008 - Ploiesti 8-004 1988 - Timis 2 - modificat in vagon plug
5060 - Ploiesti 8-007 1987 - ITB 1VU
5080 - Ploiesti 8-018 1901 - Graz GP - adus in 1998 din Mariazell, ex-Viena #6416; modernizat de Graf & Stift in 1958; cu boghiu V3A
5081 - Ploiesti 8-019 1901 - Graz GP - adus in 1998 din Mariazell, ex-Viena #6413; modernizat de Graf & Stift in 1958; cu boghiu V3A
5083 - **** 1961 - Gotha T57 E - adus in 1998 din Mariazell; in conservare

Remorci
413 - *** 1988 - Timis 2 - retras
414 - *** 1989 - Timis 2 - retras
5000-*** 1926 - Graz n1 - adus in 1998 din Mariazell, ex-Viena #5779; remorca Lohnerului #5000, in aceeasi situatie cu acela


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2007 00:27 
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Vagonul V3A-93M Faur #051, unul din cele mai bune vagoane ale Ploiestiului. Singura lui problema este ca e doar unul... din aceatsa cauza exista foarte putini oameni specializati pentru repararea lui. De exemplu, a stat 3 luni in hala pentru schimbarea bandajelor unui boghiu :!:


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2007 00:36 
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Gotha #084:


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2007 01:11 
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Lohner-ul cu remorca.


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Apr 2007 18:17 
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Se repara capital vagonul #099. Sa vedem si cateva poze din depou:


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Apr 2007 18:25 
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Iata cateva detalii ale vagonului motor #5000:


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Apr 2007 18:28 
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Remorca #5000:


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Apr 2007 18:36 
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Vagonul 1VU #5060. A suferit numeroase modificari:
-s-a inlocuit o osie cu un boghiu de Timis
-s-a inlocuit controller-ul Thomson-Houston cu controller V3A
-peria poate fi actionata atat prin controller (original), cat si prin niste contactori montati ulterior
-s-a montat un scaun de Timis in cabina


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2007 21:43 
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Din cate am vazut la Ploiesti, mai exista cateva Timisuri trase pe linii moarte in depou. Din cate am inteles, doar unul mai este functional ca perie, restul asteptandu-si linistite moartea....


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2007 21:49 
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multe din ele au devenit la propriu cuiburi de viespi


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Pentru nostalgici (uitati-va la afisaj):


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Traseul 28 a fost dintotdeauna de autobuz. Din '87-'88, de cand cu tramvaiele, acest traseu a fost facut de tramvaie, dar nu stiu exact din ce motiv a fost folosit acest numar de traseu pentru tramvai... Pare cam ilogic, deoarece traseele de tramvaie au avut dintotdeauna schema 10x(101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106 si 107)


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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jul 2007 02:10 
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Va atrag atentia asupra unei poze din cele de mai sus:
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Si daca vreti mai mult:


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Vagonul #051 cand a fost gata si au fost chemati cei de la RATP sa-l receptioneze... era roz. Oficialii de la RATP au refuzat sa faca receptia, asa ca vagonul a fost revopsit in schema pe care o avea pana acum cateva luni.

Apoi a fost receptionat, desfacut in 3 si ,,expediat" pe vagoane platforma pana la Ploiesti. Vagoanele au fost trase pe CF ce trece pe langa depou, unde sectiunile au fost descarcate, puse pe boghiuri si duse in depou, unde au fost asamblate. Problema a fost ca sectiunea C a sosit cu o saptamana intarziere.

Afisajele au avut aceleasi trasee ca in Bucuresti... de aceea, ultimele 8 trasee au fost sterse (de fapt banda a fost vopsita in alb) si s-au scris cu negru traseele din Ploiesti de la acea vreme, adica 28, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107.

Ca o parere personala, vagonul #051 nu mi-a parut revopsit (dupa ce i s-au jupuit niste reclame, s-a luat si vopseaua si nu se vede pic de roz sub ea... decat chit... si ma indoiesc ca statea FAUR-ul sa polizeze un vagon nou ca sa-l revopseasca)... cum in aceeasi perioada Faur a produs tramvaie si pentru R.A.T.B. si cum din vagonul original au ramas doar pantograful, controller-ul si ceva geamuri, e foarte posibil ca ce a rezultat din #051 sa se plimbe acum prin Bucuresti.


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Incepand cu data de 6.12, ora 10:00, avem in traseu vagonul 051 ca si Tramvai al Copiilor. Daca este cineva amator sa vina maine in jur de 9-9:30 putem merge la depou sa il vedem.


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Rezumatul primei zile precum si filmuletul care o sa fie difuzat la monitorul din interior alaturi de cel de pe 1 iunie :



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PostPosted: Sun 04 May 2008 10:55 
O curiozitate: tramvaiele #100 - #106 au venit cu acel model de usi din Potsdam sau au fost modificate in Ploiesti?


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Asa au venit :)


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 Post subject: Ploiesti: tramvaie KT4D
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070 Ploiesti

008 Potsdam


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071 Ploiesti

010 Potsdam


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072 Ploiesti

020 Potsdam


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073 Ploiesti

022 Potsdam


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074 Ploiesti

026 Potsdam


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075 Ploiesti

027 Potsdam


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076 Ploiesti

028 Potsdam


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077 Ploiesti

029 Potsdam


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044 Potsdam


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